82炮和100炮比较

坦克世界IS怎么打打得好?用什么炮?122还是100?_百度知道
坦克世界IS怎么打打得好?用什么炮?122还是100?
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你的输出一点不差的,五九啊,这样正面不好穿的,跟IS3完全体一样,自己发挥要上去!,直接上金币弹瞬间变身-3,遇到活动多打打,八级房不是找五九艹么,开个V。再有就是准备几发金币弹,一定要尽全力确保输出.也没什么快速的技巧,到IS3渡白板期那可是场场八级以上啊。我觉得IS还是走HT线比较好,你去侧后输出,遇到-6啊,所以我个人觉得,因为IS的伤害非常高,还不如在IS这里多玩玩,IS3白板期一样用IS的炮.就是那个D25什么什么的炮122,而且不要急着去IS3那,七级房可以去压制对方MT,甚至必要的时候要让八级队友帮你吃炮。HT线主要就是辅助队友
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E100防御能力及150炮的心得体会
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  E100的150炮有.37的精准,看似不高,不过貌似打500米外的固定目标是没什么问题的。移动靶难打点,总觉得E100的150炮的飞行时间有点长。
  满熟练后16.39秒一发炮弹,对于150杀伤的炮来说不算快不算慢,可以接受。
  穿深235,实装后上限穿甲力293,和虎王炮差不多。
  这两天有人说E100的150炮穿透不够,个人体验目前所有的坦克(包括老鼠在内)正面都可以击穿,不要说老鼠摆角度你能打穿不这类的话……我开老鼠和T30在训练房间,我不开炮叫30打,有过15炮才击穿我一次的经历。所以目前来看,E100的150炮的穿透足够……(本人木有弱点插件,凭经验打)
  打T30,瞄下体。野战三天木有跳蛋,随意他怎么摆车体,只要下体可以看见就绝对打穿。
  打IS-7,中间下体突出物。正对击穿率85% 左右,对面摆角度的话击穿率不好说,暂且不表。
  打老鼠,裤裆。正对击穿率90%以上,脸颊正对100%击穿,摆角度另说。
  伤害发挥:此炮伤害击穿后基本700+的伤害比较常见,偶尔飘900,几率较低……
  以上为个人E100的150炮体验,仅供参考。
  另附:E100防御体验
  整体防御不如老鼠。大老鼠我也有,感觉E100和老鼠就是完全两个概念的车,E100怎么说呢?肯定不是像老鼠拿来抗揍的。
  车体正面
  【上首】免疫除火炮外的所有炮弹,【下首】9级炮正对可击穿,【车体斜侧】9级炮可弹开。
  个人使用E100时被击穿有转镜头看弹孔的习惯,因为是新车,所以在体验怎么摆姿势。个人感觉车体斜30-40度之间跳蛋最高,10级炮下可以免疫。但是唯一蛋疼的地方就是下首近两边履带的地方,如果被人瞄这里,易被击穿并且掉血……下首中间被击穿时常伴随发动机被打坏或者起火……几率虽然不高,但是很蛋疼。
  车体侧面
  跳蛋较高,尤其是30到40度斜对时,但是一旦被击穿,疼!
  车体后面
  这里怎么说呢,很脆。(什么车都脆)偶尔有奇怪的现象,被击穿不掉血……
  炮塔侧后
  很脆,没别的。
  炮塔正面
  个人感觉比老鼠的硬点,但是如果习惯老鼠的侧炮塔那么会很悲剧。感觉炮塔如果30到40度给别人很容易被击穿。
  炮塔头上
  没被人打过,咱不表述……
  火炮溅射防御力很强,3M外的溅射直接无视,只是断履带无伤害……T92除外。但是92的溅射伤害对于E100来说比老鼠的小……
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这车有2门炮,一门是128炮,6连发,穿深276,伤害560,上弹57秒,短装填2秒,锁圈1.9/ s- l% {, K7 z. K
& && && && && && &&&一门是150炮,4连发,穿深235,伤害750,上弹47秒,短装填3秒,锁圈2.34 l& s1 i) S3 Y* y
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→_→ 反正测试服 我用128..而且这车的表现 并不像想象的那样...
虽然说.我喜欢BlueTears..但是更爱法国妹啊!!TOT...
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根据他的分房你再来选择最好,有金币蛋的话果断150
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必然150的金币弹啊。128有毛用&&长装填那么长
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楼主说的穿深和伤害是银币弹的数据,金币弹现在还未知,仅从银币弹的性能考虑的话必然是128更好,穿深自不用说,10级炮没穿深就是废柴,另外再说伤害128是6连发,150是4连发 一梭子下去128如果全部击穿并造成伤害的情况下理论伤害是3360 而150只有3000,虽然150长装填比128快10秒,但从战术角度讲在突发的一对一情况下这车一梭子干不掉对方基本就是等死,多10秒还是少10秒长装填已经没有任何意义,而对于支援打发来说一梭子打完必然要找安全位置去上弹,一般也不会在乎那多出的10秒长装填时间。
至于金币弹情况 个人认为必然150要比128给力由于目前没有详细金币弹数据咱也就不分析了,总的来说,这货想黑基本不可能,从这线出的外形来看D系这线的大部分车实际是前线支援型火炮,这跟D国2战后期的窘境是有直接关系的,大部分车的设计思想基本是打算高平两用的,当然这里的高不是作为高炮,而是作为类似突击炮支援步兵,而平射时主要是支援装甲部队反坦克的,基本这线的TD是火力输出,但隐蔽和机动嘛…………至少是有轮的,至于黑枪…………还是跟着中坦给他们支援吧,顺便还能有一定威慑作用,让对面不敢轻易探头强吃,至于跟重型支援……就那脆皮脑袋,重坦的大口径HE,或者HEAT来上一发基本就是死成员坏零件还外带费血,当然天朝的火炮们又有新的甜点了~个人感觉E100武器搬运车如果用MMORPG中的职业比较有点狂战士的类型,有血量没防御,爆发性伤害,然后冷却…………
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手机盒子客户端点击或扫描下载番外:关于T-34/100装上100mm火炮
作者:AztecWarrior
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发布时间: 08:21
内容简介: Hello everyone,炮友们大家好
  Hello everyone,
  炮友们大家好
  those of you, who are playing World of Tanks for a while do probably remember that at one point, the tier 6 medium tank, T-34/85, had an option to mount the 100mm D-10T gun. This was actually quite historical & there was an attempt (a prototype) to mount a 100mm gun in the T-34/85 turret and today, we&re going to have a look at it.
  坦克世界的老玩家们也许还记得6级中坦T-34/85曾经可以装上100mm D-10T火炮。这是非常符合历史的-事实上确实有进行过在T-34/85炮塔上安装一门100毫米火炮的尝试(甚至有一辆原型车),现在让我们来看看详细的。
  The reason for the proposal to actually upgun the T-34/85 was the fact that even in 1944, it was clear that the 85mm-equipped tank was inferior to the Panther, when it came to guns and improvements were in order. The first step was to first install a high-power 85mm gun (ZIS-85-BM) with improved penetration capabilities. This happened in September 1944, when Factory No.192 developed this powerful gun with the muzzle velocity of 980 m/s. After the development, the gun, now designated as ZIS-1, was transferred to the Gorokhovetsk proving grounds, but the trials proved to be the a failure.
  提议升级T-34/85的火炮的理由是,即使到了1944年,装备85毫米火炮的坦克仍然弱于黑豹,因此火炮的升级被提上日程。第一步尝试是安装一门拥有更高火力和穿深的85毫米火炮(ZIS-85-BM)。这次尝试发生在1944年9月当192号工厂研发了这门炮口初速达980m/s的大威力火炮。在发展之后这门炮被命名为ZIS-1火炮,并被运往Gorokhovetsk的试验场,但是试验被认为是失败的。
  In the beginning of October 1944, the design bureo of the Factory &Bolshevik& tried to develop an 85mm high-power gun as well & this time it was an experimental 85mm V-5 gun with the muzzle velocity of 950 m/s. Additionally, the factory also developed a conical gun V-9K with muzzle velocity of more than 1150 m/s. But the characteristics of the gun were not satisfactory, the gun was barely able to keep up with the dreaded German 88mm L/71 and in the Spring of 1945, the development was cancelled.
  1944年10月初,&布尔什维克&工厂的设计局同样尝试研发了一门高威力85mm火炮-这次是炮口初速达950m/s的85mm V-5火炮。另外,这座工厂也研发了一门锥膛炮 V-9K,其炮口初速超过了1150m/s。但是这门炮的性能并不能令人满意,这门炮只能勉强达到1945年春德国令人恐惧的88mm L/71 火炮的水平,这个发展计划也被取消了。
  Regardless of these failures, the development moved towards the equipping of the T-34 with a 100mm gun. This task of mounting a 100mm fun into a regular turret was given to the design bureau of Plant No.9 and the Department 520 of Plant No.183 in July 1944. However preliminary development showed that the standard 1600 mm turret ring would be insufficient. At the same time, the larger 1800 mm turret ring of the heavy IS tank was too large to fit on the T-34 without seriously reworking the vehicle, which was practically impossible. Either way, the developers of the Gorky Factory No.92 design bureau, led by A.Savinov, managed to relatively successfully implement a 100mm gun into a standard T-34/85 turret. They proposed a gun by the name of 100mm ZIS-100 for it, based around the earlier mass-produced ZIS S-53 model gun. Yet again, the trials of this gun were not successful, since the gun, when shooting during the testing, overstressed the transmission and suspension of the T-34/85 by its power. The installation of a muzzle brake did not solve the issue either.
  尽管遭受众多挫折,发展计划转向了在T-34上装载一门100毫米火炮。将一门100毫米火炮塞♂进一个普通炮塔的任务被交给了9号工厂设计局和183号工厂(听着略**&&)的520部门。然而,初步发展显示标准的1600毫米炮塔座圈不足以达到要求。同时1800毫米的IS重型坦克的炮塔座圈又因过大而无法装在未经过特殊处理后的T-34坦克上,而这是非常不现实的。另一方面,由A.Savinov领导的搞尔基工厂的92号设计局(毛子你这工厂和设计部门编号乱死了)相对成功地将一门100火炮塞♂进了一个标准T-34/85炮塔里。他们为这门基于之前大规模生产的ZIS S-53火炮发展而来的100毫米火炮取名ZIS-100。然而再一次,这门炮的试验被认为是不成功的,因为测试中火炮射击时,后坐力超出了T-34/85坦克的承受范围。安装炮口制退器仍然不能解决这个问题。
  The second part of the attempts to upgun the T-34/85 tank was connected with the development of the new modern T-44B medium tank (later on leading to the development of the T-54). From the initiative of A.A.Morozov and the Factory No.183, a hybrid experimental vehicle was created, with the suspension, transmission and other parts of the T-34/85 and with the turret of the T-44B. Since the turret ring was larger (1700mm), there were some changes made to the T-34 chassis as well. The hull machinegun was removed and so was one of the crewmembers. The bottom and the roof above the engine of the vehicle was made thinner, the fuel tanks were modified and there were some modifications in the suspension as well. In the end, the vehicle weight reached 33 tons and this tank was designated as &T-34-100〃.
  T-34/85坦克火炮升级尝试的第二部分与新式的T-44B中型坦克(后来成为T-54坦克发展的基础)的发展相关。基于A.A.Morozov和183号工厂的提议,一辆混合试验车被制造出来,它的悬挂系统,传动系统和其他部分零件来自T-34/85,而炮塔则使用了T-44B的炮塔。因为这个炮塔座圈要稍大一些(1700毫米),T-34底盘也做了一些改变。车体机枪和一个车组成员被移除(前略,天国的通信兵)。车底和引擎上方的车体造得更薄,油箱和悬挂系统都做了些改变。最后这辆重达33吨的坦克被命名为T-34-100
  Between February and March 1945, this tank was trialed on the Sverdlovsk and Gorokhevetsk proving grounds, both with the 100mm ZIS-100 and D-10T guns (the latter being from OKV No.9). The testing was relatively successful, even though the accuracy of the guns was not good and firing the guns still proved to be quite a burden on the suspension. The Red Army liked the vehicle and they pushed the developers to further work on the vehicle and to fix the various faults, but unfortunately, various attempts to figure out and fix the aforementioned issues were not met with success.
  在1945年二月到三月间,这辆坦克在斯维尔德洛夫斯克和Gorokhevetsk的试验场进行了测试,测试中对使用了100毫米ZIS-100和D-10T(后者来自9号OKV)火炮的情况都进行了测试。这次测试相对比较成功,尽管火炮精度并不好,而且开火仍然被证明会对悬挂系统造成巨大的负担。红军很喜欢这辆坦克,他们催促开发者们进一步改进坦克并修复各种各样的错误,但是不幸的是,各式各样试图修复前述问题的尝试没有获得成功。
  At this point, in the Factory No.92 in Gorky by the end of 1944, a new 100mm gun LB-1 was developed with a reduced recoil and they mounted this gun on the T-34 as well. Generally, the gun was similiar to the D-10T and the ZIS-100. The gun of the tank with this gun reached 9150 mm, with the gun barrel being 3340 mm longer than the dimensions of the tank itself. Between 6th and 14th of April, 1945, the T-34/100 with the LB-1 gun was tested, with 1000 rounds fired and over 501 km driven with this tank. The practical rate of fire of this gun was between 5,2 and 5,8 rounds per minute, the accuracy of this gun was higher than its predecessors and the stress on the suspension was lower. The trials were a success and the army liked this vehicle as well, but in the end, the T-34/100 was never mass produced & the war was practically over, there was no need for it anymore and new, more modern tanks (T-44 and T-54) were being developed at this point as well.
  此时,1944年末,在位于搞尔基的92号工厂,一门减少了后坐力的100毫米LB-1火炮被研发出来并同样被装上了T-34坦克。一般来说这门炮和D-10T以及ZIS-100很相似。装上了这门炮的坦克总长度达到了9150毫米,而炮管甚至比车体本身还要长3340毫米。在1945年四月6日至14日,装着LB-1火炮的T-34/100进行了测试,发射了1000发弹药,并行驶了超过501公里。这门炮的实际射速可以达到每分钟5.2至5.8发,这门炮的精度也比它的先驱者们好,对悬挂系统的负担也比较小。这次试验很成功而军队也很喜欢这辆车,但是T-34/100最终没能大规模生产-战争事实上已经结束了,已经不再需要T-34/100了,而此时且更新更现代化的坦克(T-44和T-54)也正被研发出出来。
  The LB-1 was later used in 1945 to equip the T-44 (T-44-100), because its original 85mm armament was considered insufficient after the war, but the two prototypes of T-44 proved to be unreliable and poorly maneuverable & in the end, they were never adopted in service. Further work on the T-44 made little sense, since in March 1945, first T-54 prototype was created. Even here, the three 100mm guns were used and tested, ending with the final victory of the D-10T gun, that served as a standard T-54/55 gun for a very, very long time.
  后来在1945年LB-1火炮装备了T-44坦克(T-44-100),因为它原来的85毫米炮装备被认为不适合战后要求,但是T-44的两辆原型车被证明不够可靠且不易操作-最后它们也没能进入军队服役。在T-44坦克上的改进意义很小,因为在1945年3月,T-54的第一辆原型车被制造出来。在测试了这三门100毫米火炮之后,D-10T火炮最后胜出,并作为T-54/55坦克的标准火炮服役了很久很久的时间。
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